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on this episode of skeptico

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a show about freedom

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and self-evident truths

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i have an interview coming up in a

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minute with matt lambo

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a first-time author who's written a book

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that matter-of-factly lays out what he

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believes are some self-evident truths

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but before we get there let me play a

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little clip from an old movie amistad

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where i think they're talking about

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i do see that the cargo weight changed

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they reduced the poundage i'd see

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that is off

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so if you remember the story well i

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can't really call it a story the history

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there's these spanish guys that go over

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to africa they grab these people by gun

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point chain them up load them on a boat

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and head off on their little slaving

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business venture but along the way the

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africans rise up have a little mutiny

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and decide that maybe those spaniards

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should sail them back to africa

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now it doesn't turn out that way and

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they get captured by an american ship

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and that leads to this court battle

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and the scene that you saw there is

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where they were wrestling with the

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legality of whether that cargo

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human lives

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could be thrown overboard to reduce the

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weight of the ship

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now i think for a lot of us

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that falls into the category of a

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self-evident truth

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that is that you can't enslave people

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and force them to do what you want by

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threat of death

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here's the way today's guest matt

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lambeau puts it

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all conscious souls long to be free

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we want to make our own decisions using

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our own volition so we can decide for

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ourselves what's right and wrong

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so anybody who doesn't agree with the

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first fact is going to fall into three

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categories they're either ignorant of

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which i'm making of calculus i get it

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we're all ignorant they're captive they

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no longer have freedom of thought or

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they're either complicit or corrupt

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your conscious soul was alive before you

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were born

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it will be alive after you die this

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exercise on life is a lucid dream where

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your conscious soul is navigating the

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physical energy of our universe

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with that said selfishness in its

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simplest sense is demanding that others

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conform to your perception of reality

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is you

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happiness from another individual

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so this is an interesting interview you

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might like it you might hate it but one

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thing i wanted to point out is that you

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know even though matt doesn't have a phd

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he sure nailed the moral imperative

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question a lot better than last week's

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guest dr dean rayden if you remember

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raiden kind of stumbled over the idea of

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whether morality could ever come into

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the equation

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yeah you're talking about issues of

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morality and ethics and

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it might be related to all this but i'm

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i'm not sure i would go there

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and it's extra funny because he kind of

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does the heavy lifting i mean the only

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way you can maintain the idea that

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morality is always under every

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circumstance

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a social construct is to believe that

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we're biological robots in a meaningless

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universe

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so it's amazing to me that the scientist

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who's probably done more than anyone

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else to scientifically dispel that idea

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can't make the step

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can't see the obvious implications

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for the moral imperative for

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self-evident truths

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like freedom

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hope you like this one stick around for

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my interview with matt lambo

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welcome to skeptico where we explore

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controversial science and spirituality

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with leading researchers thinkers and

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their critics i'm your host alex sacaris

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and today

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we welcome matt lambo to skeptico

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matt is the author of the facts

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i pulled up his author page on amazon

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a little bit in the forum

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is a wild ride and i've kind of

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encouraged matt to come out from his

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bombastic kind of

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pseudonym personality that he is in

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writing this book and tell us what it's

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really about the the book does claim to

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be the ultimate source of truth and

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wisdom about well almost everything but

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but what i want to bring forth in this

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interview and i was just telling matt

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is i want you to reserve

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your temptation to dismiss

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matt and to dismiss that the claims that

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might kind of hit you over the head and

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really think about

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what he's saying and the necessity he

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feels about putting it forth in this way

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if you do i think you'll find what i

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have found and that's that this guy has

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some super interesting things to say and

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to talk about and some very very

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skeptical-ish kind of ideas so

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matt it's terrific having you on

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welcome to skeptico

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amigo truly a pleasure

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truly a pleasure

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so let's start with the obvious

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tell tell us about the book the facts

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okay uh yep the facts is the first book

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in three of them it's called humanity's

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last hope the subsequent books are the

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war against evil and the battle for the

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benjamins

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the facts is basically

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my attempt i'm a researcher

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okay and over the last decade i've grown

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frustrated as as everybody in terms of

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just what's happening in the world and

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the division between us the inability

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the fact that we can be family members

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or best friends and we see the world

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from completely different paradigms the

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exact world we're sharing we see

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and that intrigued me in terms of why

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the hell this is happening

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and truth be told one of the first

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epiphanies in my life was one was

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finally introduced to george orwell

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and for those that haven't read george

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straightforward it's saying hey here's

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how a narrative can be manipulated

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by those that might have a sinister

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agenda and then 1984 was simply saying

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this is what happens when you do it on a

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it all becomes one big lie you're either

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part of the lie or your

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views or perception of the world is a

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product of that deceit so that was an

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epiphany in my life that said oh okay

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what's happening and that is we're being

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fed through our media a paradigm of

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reality that one in my humble opinion on

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one side is completely inaccurate and

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nothing but lies and the other side is

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true 100 true so the fact is basically

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my pursuit to see if i can go find these

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fruits that i call self-evident truths

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and line them up sympathy simply so more

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unlikely can follow the steps

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i believe the facts takes your mind not

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your physical body but your mind above

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the fray on earth you might have

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mentioned it starts off with it to be a

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spoiler we're killed the reader and the

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author are killed together we're now

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floating like an nde

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the planet earth and because we're in

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the next destination information flows

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into us like a thing and so basically

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the facts and what that means is we're

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following somebody like you

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that went out and discovered the science

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so my role is simply simplifying this

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stuff so the rest of us can follow your

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capitalized because it's an acronym what

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correct and that's a crucial distinction

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to use the term like the facts is

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audacious who's this guy that says he

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everything they're only the facts to

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little culprit called selfishness

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now to put it into context real quickly

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told i believe it's fact one two or

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earth surprise your conscious soul will

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this is no longer a topic of discussion

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this is where i think

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it starts getting interesting because

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established exactly that consciousness

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what you're highlighting here is super

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important and it's the reason that i

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wanted to have you on matt because

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even if we sort through a lot of the

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stuff you're saying and if someone

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you've just put your finger on like

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a really important thing which is that

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this is self-evident it's not only true

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it's self-evident that if you go out and

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you come to that conclusion so why

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conclusion that's what i think you're

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astute observation there young jedi i

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don't want to jump around too much

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but i think your metaphor of the tree

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is just

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tell us about the tree

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okay the tree of life

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all right good i'll do as best i can to

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explain it now let me finish on that

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first thought the fact that my conscious

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soul was alive before i was born and

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that it'll be alive after i die is

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irrefutably proven and again not only

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science but billions if not trillions of

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testimonies from caretakers or what be

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it i mean the fact that we still have a

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discussion about what happens when we

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die is ludicrous we need to move above

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it we need to move above that frequency

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and start figuring out just what happens

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so

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if your spirit was alive before you were

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born and it will be alive after that

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begs the question why are we a human

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being

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okay why are we here

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and truth be told

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it's to navigate the energy that is

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earth

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and

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when you look at selfishness or humility

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first of all you know this and it's

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early on in the book it's just a little

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physics understanding that's saying dude

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there is no solid if you're the size of

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an electron even the inside of a diamond

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looks like the universe it's nothing but

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space of little dots

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so what we perceive is real is not it's

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an illusion and it's unique to us alone

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we all have our own independent unique

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perceptions of the world so selfishness

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in its simple sense

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is you being a human being and demanding

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that others conform to your paradigm of

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reality that's it humility is the

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opposite it's saying i'm going to live

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my life

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with recognition of somebody else's

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paradigm you got hitler on one extreme

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our boy jc on the other we're somewhere

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between but the fact of the matter is in

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the spiritual world all that matters is

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selfishness and humility it is by

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whatever judge now to take a step

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further in terms of saving humanity

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you say listen

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um humility comes from giving true joy

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so if you're in a complete state of

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despair the truth of the facts

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is that you can eliminate that despair

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by simply giving to others

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positive energy will flow into your life

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so you can see it goes a bit deeper and

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but you're with me

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i am i i'm with you you know the way

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that uh

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in the way that one of my favorite guys

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says it is is twofold this is

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the first part of what you're saying is

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don't complain about the weather

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yeah so that's easier for me to do i

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live in southern california on the beach

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harder for you to do if you live in

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minnesota but it's the same

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why do you think you're at the center of

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this universe the center of this

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infinite time stream that you should be

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complaining about the weather that's

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point one and that's to your point about

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selfishness to me that's what

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selfishness about is about and the

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second thing that he says is

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don't pass that car

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yeah i know she's driving 30 and the

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speed limit's 35 and if it's 35 you

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really can go 40 and i'll

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don't

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pass the car

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because again it's selfishness it's

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thinking that you have to get ahead you

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have to do something that there's some

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god has some plan for you some mission

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for you that only you can do no god just

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wants you to be with that woman right

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now and consider

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whatever the hell is going in her head

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that makes her want to wear a mask when

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there's no one in the car and drive 30

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when the speed limit's 35

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god wants you to not hate that person

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and god wants you to not pass that car

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and that is my interpretation of

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what you're saying that resonates with

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me on such a beautiful level and so so

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few people get that matt and you are my

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spiritual brother cause you get that

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stuff just like

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a duck swimming in water i mean it's

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just all a part of what you're about

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yeah well and again i've got this uh

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everything in my world just seems like

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common sense

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and i don't know why that is

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and i mean like what we just talked

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about that's saying this is common sense

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i don't get why this is of course that

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um you know our spirits are alive and

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we're navigating this energy and we've

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got our own volition and yes we answer

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to right and wrong decisions because our

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selfish decisions always take us into

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frequencies of darkness

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regardless every time it's no longer

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something that needs to be studied our

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selfless decisions

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that accommodate our brethren take us

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into the light true joy you can get

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happiness in the form of ferrari true

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joy only comes through giving that's it

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and to give just a tiny little amount

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means positive energy of light pours

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into your conscious soul

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and so

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uh to again the problem and why i come

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across so condescending is for some

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reason for me

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it's all common sense

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it's crazy i look around the world and

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so then uh with that said is you we

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can't blame somebody for their ignorance

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there's no obligation or mandate to

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understand this crap

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okay

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but with that said

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ignorance can be a big time danger to my

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freedom

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especially if they've got power

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or they can vote or they're a patriarch

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or family or something if these people

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are completely selfish because they

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don't understand what we just talked

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about they can be making lives around

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them miserable

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so the ticket out of that is to get them

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to the holy grail and say dude this is

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the way the world works

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you're you're punishing your kids

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because you don't understand

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matt tell us about the tree metaphor

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okay so it's called the tree of life and

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just by happenstance i didn't discover

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this until late but it's like one of the

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first few sentences right in genesis i

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mean whether a bible reads or not i

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thought it was kind of coincidental

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and it's basically saying that the tree

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of life is truth it's simply this tree

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of life that's saying there are

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self-evident truths

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okay and those truths need to be

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protected because there are forces

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out there that do not want conscious

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souls to understand this truth so if you

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look at the tree of life it's basically

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saying that all of humanity agrees with

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the roots

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darkness and light fear and love

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selfishness and humility every single

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conscious decision a human being makes

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is one or the other you're either going

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down to the frequencies of dark every

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single decision can be registered in

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terms of what it was for the benefit of

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my own paradigm or somebody else's so

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those self-evident truths are the roots

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of the tree

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okay now since all of humanity agrees

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with the roots and two this yang your

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yang

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of fear or love supersedes even that of

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an ineffable creator

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it's the way all universes work

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it's just the way so the tree of life

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then is

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going to the trunk starts with the first

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fact the first self-evident truth which

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is the most obvious and we would agree

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on that that says this is the most

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important now i have that one written we

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can discuss it but we talk instead of

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humanity spending their whole life to

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understand what you and i understand

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we're going to give it to them at the

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outset

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that says your conscious soul is alive

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and there's intelligence within our

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atmosphere that we don't understand

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you're getting that one first

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play it back what's the trunk of the

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tree i love this metaphor by the way i

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think it's quite brilliant

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play that back the first fundamental

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truth again i love it it's self-evident

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but not everybody gets it so go i get it

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okay and so again you use the term

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metaphor

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okay

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i think that falls short i think we are

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indeed it as bombastic as it might sound

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talking about the actual tree of life

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the genesis tree of life because it's

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simply a protected portal it's truth

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when it when humanity went into the

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darkness and the light we have to find

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the light and that's nothing but truth

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spiritual energy is synonymous with

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intelligence

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it's the same thing your thought process

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is alive because you think that's

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intelligence and again you were alive

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before your conscious soul okay okay

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truth thing uh the tree again the trunk

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trunk okay trunk is saying you start

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with the first fact

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you learn that now your conscious soul

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has gone one frequency above the fray on

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earth the next fact takes you closer the

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next one closer and i gave you the top

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10 facts

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recap because you decided i'm trying to

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pull that back out of you

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fact number one is beautiful tell us it

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again

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just succinctly what's fact number okay

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fact number one is this

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and when you hear this

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your conscious soul not your body your

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mind

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moves up into a frequency that's smarter

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than the rest of humanity and that fact

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is this

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all conscious souls long to be free

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we want to make our own decisions using

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our own volition and we want to

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experience this planet so we can decide

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for ourselves what's right and wrong

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we want to be free

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okay and the other thing the other thing

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i heard you say before so maybe i i you

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this is part of that but

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i heard you say that right above the

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root is just this understanding that we

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are conscious beings

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in this spiritual

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world because you know people have

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followed this show i mean

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i don't know why but i'm with you bro i

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had to pound on this for years

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if we come to understand and study

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really that science is telling you

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you're a biological robot in a

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meaningless universe science where your

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kids went to school there

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my kids went to school they were this

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was drilled into them over and over and

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over again there is no meaning there is

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no consciousness consciousness is an

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illusion consciousness is an

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epiphenomena of the brain

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shut up there's nothing to it

561
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:37,039
so right off the bat you're hitting us

562
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,720
with two things you're saying at the

563
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,480
root is

564
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:42,960
hell yes there's a moral imperative

565
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,280
there's a right there's a wrong you knew

566
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,679
that when you were five years old why

567
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:49,280
are you letting somebody tell you

568
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:52,320
different you know that's true and then

569
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:53,919
the next thing you're hitting us with is

570
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:55,280
saying

571
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:56,640
and come on

572
00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,600
you know that you're conscious

573
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:02,000
you know that that voice inside your

574
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:04,880
head is real you know that if you speak

575
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:08,240
completely silent and say hello

576
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,360
something inside you hears

577
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:13,440
that hello

578
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,200
and answers back

579
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:17,280
and you are conscious

580
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:20,320
why did you ever let someone

581
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:23,679
convince you to even entertain the idea

582
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:26,320
that that isn't real why did you fall

583
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:28,960
for that that's what i hear you saying

584
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,280
that's where i hear you being

585
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:33,360
agitated in the same way that i'm

586
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,200
agitated because that leads to the

587
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:37,440
question is why would someone try and

588
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:39,679
deceive us that way why would someone

589
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:40,880
try and

590
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:44,159
kind of slip one past this at at such a

591
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:46,799
degree and why the heck are they so

592
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:48,799
effective at it

593
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:50,880
okay you answer your own question i know

594
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,039
why what do you think

595
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:55,679
i don't think we're quite there yet

596
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:58,640
because what i want people to hear is

597
00:24:02,310 --> 00:23:59,919
that

598
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,320
again i'm using the term metaphor i

599
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:04,559
think it's a beautiful metaphor i think

600
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:05,840
these roots

601
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,320
get to this trunk and then i want you to

602
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,240
move into

603
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:12,960
the metaphor what are the branches what

604
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:15,600
are the twigs what are the leaves

605
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:18,159
got it got it all right good yup so the

606
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:21,520
first fact all right is saying again

607
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:25,279
you've been indoctrinated with untruth

608
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:27,679
but with the first fact we can lift

609
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:30,080
whoever reads in fact above the fray

610
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:31,679
they're now in a frequency where they

611
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:32,640
get it

612
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,400
okay so the fact the first fact too is

613
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,840
again let me let me just explain the

614
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:39,440
metaphor a little further imagine the

615
00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:42,240
world is is covered with an ocean of

616
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,520
deception

617
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,080
okay and the tree of life is a portal

618
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:48,000
out of that oil spill

619
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:51,520
up through this the muck into the light

620
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:53,360
and that's what we have to protect is

621
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:56,559
this path to go up in frequencies and in

622
00:25:02,390 --> 00:24:59,600
intelligence outside of the the cesspool

623
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,400
of deception so fact one lifts us above

624
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:04,559
it hey we're we're all want to be free

625
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:07,360
we're conscious souls we're alive okay

626
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:10,960
now anybody that disagrees or doesn't

627
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:14,240
understand that becomes a danger to your

628
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:15,279
freedom

629
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:18,240
okay not because they're a human being

630
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:22,000
donald trump or barack obama or my wife

631
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:24,400
none of that matters what matters is the

632
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:26,799
ideology the thoughts in their head are

633
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:29,840
a danger so anybody who doesn't agree

634
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,320
with the first fact is gonna fall into

635
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,039
three categories they're either ignorant

636
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,440
of which i'm making of calculus i get it

637
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:38,960
we're all ignorant they're either

638
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,919
ignorant but they're captive they no

639
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,240
longer have freedom of thought or

640
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,720
they're either complicit or corrupt

641
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,480
which means they understand what you and

642
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:50,159
i are saying and they don't give a rat's

643
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,039
ass

644
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:53,360
okay so

645
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,559
now the next step two all right so we

646
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:58,559
educated him on the first step here's

647
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:01,120
step two your conscious soul was alive

648
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,640
before you were born

649
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,360
it will be alive after you die this

650
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,840
exercise on life is called a lucid dream

651
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:10,080
where your conscious soul is navigating

652
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:12,799
the physical energy of our universe

653
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,600
with that said selfishness in its

654
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,240
simplest sense is demanding that others

655
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:21,279
conform to your perception of reality

656
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:24,720
okay selfishness on a larger scale

657
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:26,080
is you

658
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:28,799
taking the faith freedom or finance or

659
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,960
the life liberty or pursuit of happiness

660
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:33,039
from another individual

661
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:34,000
okay

662
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:35,919
selfishness on a simple sense of making

663
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,880
my family demand conform to my reality

664
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:41,440
on a larger scope i want the world and i

665
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,640
need for me to get my agenda i need your

666
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:46,799
your life your liberty or your pursuit

667
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,440
of happiness so right there you can see

668
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:51,520
the dichotomy between good and evil

669
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:53,200
every single decision whether it's

670
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:55,279
putin's whether it's trump's it can all

671
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:56,799
be measured on whether or not they're

672
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:59,120
fighting for freedom or control

673
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:01,840
and that's only step two of the trunk

674
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:03,679
imagine if we take them all ten where

675
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:04,640
they'll be

676
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:07,919
i think that's super powerful stuff

677
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:10,000
and i think it would take us a long time

678
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,880
to

679
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,559
kind of fully deconstruct that but we

680
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:14,640
have to try because i don't think we can

681
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,880
kind of jump to all the other

682
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:19,360
stuff without just kind of breaking that

683
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,559
down and as i said his book is

684
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:24,559
if you're going to buy this book or

685
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,600
you're going to pick it up at his

686
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,440
website for free if he still has it for

687
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,360
free don't you because we want him to

688
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:31,360
buy but when you get to the book when

689
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:33,279
you get to the actual book

690
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:34,720
you're going to be surprised and you're

691
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:37,600
going to be impressed because as you can

692
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:38,399
tell

693
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:41,279
this guy has a command of these issues

694
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:43,039
so i want to pick up on some of the

695
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:44,880
things that you just said there and i

696
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,120
want to draw out one of them because

697
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,600
you've mentioned the evil thing but the

698
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,120
part that i really wanted to highlight

699
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:53,600
is that you're being deceived

700
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,679
we all know that there are people who

701
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,840
have motives that aren't in line with

702
00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:59,679
the light and with the good

703
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,159
and yet we constantly want to pretend

704
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:04,240
that that's not the case i interviewed

705
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:07,200
this fbi agent a while back and he was

706
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,679
an undercover guy and not a lot of the

707
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,080
fbi agents go undercover

708
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:15,200
and he had gone undercover with the

709
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,120
nambla group north american man man boy

710
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,600
uh loves you made funny by the south

711
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:23,919
park thing but not so funny

712
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,559
when you really listen to his story and

713
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,559
now we went to new york city and i was

714
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:30,880
in times square and the kid all the guys

715
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:33,039
wanted to go in to toys r us because

716
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,960
they had a giant ferris wheel and they

717
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,799
could watch the little kids

718
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,640
and he said what really got me is it's

719
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,919
not just that they were watching the

720
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,840
little kids they were talking about how

721
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:43,840
they wanted to hurt them what they

722
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,000
wanted to do and it wasn't just about

723
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,200
sex it was about inflicting pain

724
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:51,440
and suffering

725
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,880
and he said alex if i wasn't undercover

726
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:56,640
i would have picked him up and thrown

727
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:59,120
him over that freaking 20-foot railing

728
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,120
and enjoyed watching their head splatter

729
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:03,120
on the on the floor below

730
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:04,799
and the reason i bring that up to people

731
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:07,120
sometimes is like

732
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:10,559
you said you don't think there's evil

733
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:12,480
well what about that

734
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:14,159
and people quickly crumble and go okay

735
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:15,440
no i get it

736
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:16,399
that's

737
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,559
but i think the deeper question and

738
00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:22,559
again if you take it from the tree

739
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:25,279
standpoint that you're talking about

740
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:28,240
we can start to unravel this question

741
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:30,880
which is i think what you do in the book

742
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:34,159
which is if we're all about light and

743
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,679
dark if we're all about good and evil

744
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:39,039
selfishness

745
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:44,399
comes from humility comes from giving

746
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:47,919
then maybe we can understand people who

747
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,480
can't get that energy to flow

748
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,640
can't get that life force to flow

749
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:54,960
through the tree and what they wind up

750
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:57,200
doing is the only way they can get it to

751
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,159
flow

752
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,720
is to put it out in a really really

753
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,559
harmful negative way

754
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,640
that we can only speculate what that's

755
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:06,399
going to do to their soul

756
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:09,120
but the point being

757
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:12,559
this is a fundamental i don't want to

758
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:14,799
say shift because it shouldn't be a

759
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:17,039
shift because as matt's pointing out

760
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,320
this is fundamentally self-evident as

761
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:23,039
soon as someone explains it to you of

762
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:26,559
course that's what evil is about we all

763
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,760
know that we have evil within us because

764
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:31,760
we have that energy that comes up and we

765
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,200
don't know what to do but then we make

766
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:35,200
bad choices about what to do with it and

767
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,880
that leads to further bad choices and

768
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,320
that leads to more bad choices and

769
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,320
before you know it the only thing we can

770
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,240
do is to continue to make those bad

771
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,799
choices at least that's what we perceive

772
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,480
because the other thing that matt and i

773
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,480
agree about is

774
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,799
you can always choose the light

775
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:53,120
the light is always shining and the

776
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:55,760
light is a thousand times a million

777
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:59,360
times an infinite number of times

778
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:01,440
greater than the darkness so it isn't

779
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,279
that hard really

780
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:04,640
and that's what i think your book is

781
00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:07,919
about it's just you just need someone to

782
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:09,679
reassure you

783
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:10,720
so

784
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:13,279
continue to tell us about the tree all

785
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:16,320
right perfect um and yes that frequency

786
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:19,760
the top frequency of love

787
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:22,159
is not only accessible it's a frequency

788
00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:24,960
just beyond your nose

789
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:27,519
you're enveloped in it you just need to

790
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:29,519
figure out how to get to it

791
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,240
and truth is you get to it through

792
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:34,399
giving

793
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:37,679
through humility the moment simple signs

794
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:40,559
of humility instantly the frequency you

795
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:42,960
are you're catapulted to the frequency

796
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,000
of love so anybody can do it it's just

797
00:31:49,549 --> 00:31:48,000
an understanding thing and when you

798
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:49,559
think in terms of who would have

799
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:52,480
indoctrinated our children to not

800
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:55,279
understand this simple most self-evident

801
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,320
truth

802
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,399
it's somebody with an ulterior motive

803
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:00,720
they've got a sinister agenda it's just

804
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:03,760
who they are so when you talk in terms

805
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:07,039
of of pedophilia again selfishness in

806
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:09,440
its simplest sense is me demanding that

807
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:11,840
others conform to my perception of

808
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:14,000
reality could there be anything more

809
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:16,960
egregious than for me to violate

810
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:20,240
somebody of uh underage

811
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:22,559
that's the ultimate form of selfishness

812
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:23,360
i'm

813
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:27,519
you're naive and you're young

814
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:30,559
into my paradigm

815
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,559
i think the button that it pushes

816
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,399
related back to i think what you said

817
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:36,399
really really quite

818
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:39,120
profoundly if we go back to it is

819
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,399
control

820
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:42,799
and i think if we're if we're honest

821
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,399
we all have control issues like you said

822
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:48,640
hey man i got control issues all over

823
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:50,880
the place like you said i got control

824
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,960
issues in my family right i want my wife

825
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,480
to do a certain thing and why didn't you

826
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,640
do i want my kids to be a certain way

827
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:58,399
hey you got to do

828
00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:01,120
i got control issues i understand that

829
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:03,919
well like you said imagine if those

830
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:07,039
control issues start going really really

831
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,320
bad

832
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,799
do you think that kind of might start to

833
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:12,080
explain

834
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:16,640
why you would want to abuse a helpless

835
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:19,039
child that you can totally control or

836
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,640
take it to where you did which i think

837
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,840
is again

838
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,760
self-evident once someone points it out

839
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:24,880
to you

840
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:26,960
let's say you were a gatesy kind of

841
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:29,120
person and let's say you had this

842
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:33,120
enormous wealth this enormous power in

843
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:36,399
influence and it didn't quite work for

844
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,840
you it still wasn't quite lifting your

845
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:41,279
soul up

846
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:43,840
might you want to exercise that control

847
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,080
in a way to see well maybe maybe if i

848
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:48,640
control the maybe if i can control more

849
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:51,279
is that i'm just throwing that out there

850
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:53,519
is that possibly

851
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,320
an explanation for what we see is it

852
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,240
maybe part of the explanation for what

853
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,320
we see because here's a guy with gates

854
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:02,320
he who had more money than he could ever

855
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,320
spend well one he was kind of born into

856
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,720
it but he legitimately made more money

857
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:08,720
than anyone could spend by the time he

858
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,200
was 25 years old so

859
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:13,200
what do we do we need another

860
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:14,720
self-evident do we need another

861
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:18,720
explanation for why he would seek to do

862
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,960
to exercise his control in such a

863
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,480
negative way

864
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,320
no i don't know this i'm building off of

865
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,159
what you said so i want to know back i

866
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,760
think

867
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:29,760
yeah it strikes me as it's it's faint

868
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:32,399
it's explained when you go down the the

869
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,800
path that says listen again it's freedom

870
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,960
or control right or wrong black or white

871
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:39,440
that type of thing when you go down that

872
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:42,800
path and it becomes about you

873
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:45,919
it means you fall so far into the abyss

874
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,399
you become what i call a demon in a

875
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:51,839
demon is simply a human being that's 100

876
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,720
selfish zero humility

877
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,560
okay and they're everywhere trust me the

878
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:58,400
leader of north korea does not have an

879
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:01,599
ounce of humility he's a walking demon

880
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,480
okay we have to again

881
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,320
some i'm not looking for trouble here

882
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,160
i'll just use it as an example because

883
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,079
he came to mind first but think about it

884
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,520
there are people that have lived their

885
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,520
entire lives and nothing has ever

886
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,520
mattered other than their own paradigm

887
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,760
of reality on the flip side of that

888
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:19,200
through spiritual growth some people

889
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,160
have lived their entire lives for others

890
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:24,880
i i get you the only part i can't resist

891
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:26,800
throwing out is

892
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:28,960
hey man he was born into it that guy in

893
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,119
north korea it's like when you talk to

894
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,599
somebody who's who's in a cult you know

895
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,200
and i talked to a guy

896
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:37,839
recently wonderful wonderful person

897
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,160
spiritual being and i love him and he

898
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:42,400
just passed and he was a mooney remember

899
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:44,480
the moonies you know sun young moon and

900
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:45,440
god

901
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,400
uh so after being in it for 30 years 30

902
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:53,680
years matt

903
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,599
he found a way out

904
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:57,440
and now he works with

905
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,640
and has worked with some people who are

906
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,800
second generation moonies

907
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,560
wrap your head around that because we

908
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:06,720
can all say oh you freaking moonies how

909
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,960
could you be so stupid how could you

910
00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:10,560
fall for that

911
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:11,839
but no

912
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:14,560
now take this next generation

913
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:17,680
your mom and your dad are moonies

914
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:20,800
they raise you as moonies every event

915
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:23,599
you've ever bought to in your life is

916
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:26,800
all moonies is all mormon is all jehovah

917
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,160
witness is all first presbyterian church

918
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:32,640
now do we have to look at that person

919
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,160
with a different sense of compassion a

920
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:38,880
different sense of understanding of how

921
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:41,680
that world view is is is formed i think

922
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,560
we do

923
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,160
and i want to give a chance to respond

924
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,000
and then i want to come back to the tree

925
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:48,720
right so i uh uh i

926
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:50,880
there's only one way out and it's truth

927
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:51,760
so

928
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,079
to be a moony that indoctrination

929
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,400
process is no different than probably

930
00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:58,079
what i went through as catholic i mean

931
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:00,320
we're being told certain things whether

932
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,760
you know there might be some semblance

933
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:04,000
of truth wrapped in the deception the

934
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:07,040
bottom line is whatever energy we were

935
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:09,839
privy to and if that's caved in as a

936
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,320
moony or if it's in north korea what be

937
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:14,960
it but either way that's our

938
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:17,200
paradigm of the world that is our

939
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:21,040
subjective truth and to try to penetrate

940
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:22,880
inside of that you're dealing with

941
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,760
something called an inexorable belief

942
00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:27,680
it's like you know again you can't you

943
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,720
you think you could ever make a

944
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:30,800
christian become islam or vice versa no

945
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:32,560
they're inextricable beliefs that will

946
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:34,720
not be changed right

947
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:37,200
and so if you were indoctrinated with

948
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:40,000
the moody as a moody or whatever it

949
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,480
might be whatever caused you to go off

950
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:45,200
course from truth your only salvation is

951
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:46,400
truth

952
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:47,760
the only way

953
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,000
mr leader in north korea that's been

954
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,079
indoctrinated for 30 years it's all he

955
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,200
knows is to find the holy grail and to

956
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:57,359
read that first fact

957
00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:59,440
and that might open up his mind that's

958
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,400
saying i don't have to be this monster i

959
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:04,560
could free my people

960
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:08,000
and save my soul truth is the only way

961
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:10,480
out of this cesspool of deception

962
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:13,119
right on back to the tree okay an

963
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:15,520
important distinction is that all of

964
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:18,800
humanity agrees on 99.9

965
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:22,320
of what's most important in life

966
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,119
where we disagree are the leads of

967
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,040
discovery

968
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:29,760
so we can follow the trunk of the facts

969
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,000
up through the branches that says this

970
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,640
big branch here is somebody uh

971
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,720
einstein's ultimatum that says you can

972
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,560
live your one of two ways you can live

973
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:40,400
your life as though it's a miracle or as

974
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,680
though it's not okay this big fat branch

975
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:45,440
is humanity that believes life is a

976
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:47,680
miracle this little branch that went to

977
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:49,520
the side are the atheists

978
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,280
and if you believe in the atheists hop

979
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,599
on that branch because through those

980
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:55,599
leaves of nourishment that might become

981
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,400
the trump it might be what's right

982
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,560
but right now the big part of the trunk

983
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:02,640
is listen there's an ineffable creator

984
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:05,680
and he's benevolent and he loves us and

985
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:08,079
that now we no longer talk about other

986
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,839
things because this is a self-evident

987
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:11,599
truth until proven wrong

988
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:12,400
so

989
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:13,200
the

990
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,240
but you and i and everybody in north

991
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:36,720
korea and we all agree on what's

992
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:39,359
important humanity we need to change

993
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,119
things we don't want it to be a [\h__\h]

994
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:43,040
show we want what's best for each other

995
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:46,000
we all agree on that stuff now someone

996
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:49,680
who might not has been indoctrinated

997
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:53,520
okay and they see the world upside down

998
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:55,599
but the only way to reach them is a

999
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:57,920
simple concept that says have you joined

1000
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:01,440
the free world no what is it go here

1001
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,720
boom all sudden now we and i consider

1002
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,880
the facts the only indoctrination that's

1003
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:08,319
necessary

1004
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:11,040
in this world is to get off on the right

1005
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:12,880
path with what's real

1006
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,359
and once you do that now you're in an

1007
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,680
intellectual discovery up in the does

1008
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,920
that did i explain it finding are you

1009
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:21,760
gathering it

1010
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,920
yeah so what i thought we'd do okay so

1011
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,599
that's that's awesome and i love that

1012
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:27,599
metaphor and i think people will

1013
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,800
will see that as quite you're buying

1014
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:32,880
you buy it

1015
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,520
bro i think it's brilliant i think it's

1016
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:37,440
absolutely

1017
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:40,319
as a metaphor though no i i mean that

1018
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:42,880
matt i mean that as a metaphor

1019
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:45,839
it's absolutely brilliant i i i think

1020
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,800
it's

1021
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,800
so worthwhile if that's why they wrote

1022
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,160
it in yes

1023
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:52,640
do you want to pull this thing just

1024
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:55,119
right into the right into the

1025
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:57,520
right into the ditch here's the thing is

1026
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,359
that the bible is an incredibly

1027
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:03,599
spiritually enriching

1028
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:06,720
document for a lot of people it becomes

1029
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,000
a source of finding the truth for

1030
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,160
millions and millions of people but that

1031
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:13,920
don't mean it's real

1032
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,400
anything like that so

1033
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,079
when people start talking about the

1034
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,240
bible as if it's true as if something

1035
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:24,800
really happened 2 000 years ago and

1036
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:28,000
history was changed no bro it's no dear

1037
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,520
it's always

1038
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:32,480
and forever it's now the light is

1039
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:35,599
shining now the light shined 2000 years

1040
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:39,200
ago yes but it's shined 2001 years ago

1041
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:42,240
so i think that the potential for

1042
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:45,680
christianity to be just another version

1043
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:46,560
of

1044
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:48,480
moonies you know

1045
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,680
10.0 where it's you know 40 generations

1046
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,760
i'm not saying that's the way it is i

1047
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:55,760
think that's the way it is i'm just

1048
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:58,000
saying we would have to fully consider

1049
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,800
that from a historical archaeological

1050
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:03,119
perspective in terms of whether or not

1051
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,520
that really holds up i would add this so

1052
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:07,680
that people hearing this

1053
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:09,839
can understand my process

1054
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:12,560
is i pushed you on that i checked you as

1055
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:14,960
hard as i could on that and i loved the

1056
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,880
way you came back because the way you

1057
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:18,240
came back is

1058
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:21,920
hey that's a small branch for me alex

1059
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:25,280
i'm at the roots i'm at the trunk alex

1060
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,359
which is spiritual truths so i i if i'm

1061
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,680
on the wrong branch over here no problem

1062
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:33,920
bro i just hop over to the other branch

1063
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:37,280
but my roots my roots are still my roots

1064
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,240
my big strong trunk that lifts me up out

1065
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:42,560
of the ignorance is still my trunk and

1066
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:46,160
that can't be shaken i so respect that

1067
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:49,839
so love that about you and what you do

1068
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,440
well and that uh

1069
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,520
um again when i threw out the genesis

1070
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:55,040
thing that was to kind of tweak you a

1071
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:57,920
little bit um but again the reason it's

1072
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,599
resonating with you

1073
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,599
has nothing to do with the fact that i

1074
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,520
might have been the one who discovered

1075
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:05,440
the concept it's resonating because it's

1076
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:08,160
true it's obvious it's common sense now

1077
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:10,000
that's saying as we move up and we

1078
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:12,240
discover we're hopping branches yeah and

1079
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,280
the one that happens to be the absolute

1080
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:17,839
truth will become the trunk

1081
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:20,480
you know um now one quick thing on the

1082
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:22,960
bible because you and i are on the exact

1083
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,480
same page

1084
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,400
okay christian indoctrination in my

1085
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:27,839
world is no different than any other

1086
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,319
type of indoctrination okay

1087
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:32,640
and when it comes to the bible

1088
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:35,760
in my subjective opinion hey i see it as

1089
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:39,359
a a mystical book written by man

1090
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:42,480
possibly divinely inspired but without

1091
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,200
question subject to interpretation

1092
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:46,880
everything is divinely inspired would

1093
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:48,960
you agree every book every important

1094
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:50,079
book that's ever been written is

1095
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,280
divinely inspired 100 agree and so the

1096
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,040
books in the bible are no different

1097
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:56,800
there's a case to be made that that the

1098
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:59,280
books of john and the apostle paul were

1099
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,800
nothing but near-death that's

1100
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,640
destination experiences

1101
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,560
and they're writing them down i mean on

1102
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:06,480
the road to damascus he saw jesus that

1103
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,960
doesn't surprise me over the last 2000

1104
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:10,079
years it's happened to millions of

1105
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,280
people

1106
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,960
whether it's jesus or not but bottom

1107
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,960
line is he went to the other destination

1108
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:16,240
learned a little bit came back started

1109
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,000
talking about it

1110
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,160
i see it no greater than that and again

1111
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,960
the book the reason i hold the bible

1112
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,800
with reverence again i've never read the

1113
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,400
whole thing and again it's subject to

1114
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:28,000
interpretation but i see it as a

1115
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:30,240
mystical document that says the moment

1116
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:32,720
you open it your mind

1117
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,480
transcends from your human cesspool to

1118
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,960
that of your spiritual realities

1119
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,640
and hopefully that takes you into the

1120
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,480
light and if that's what that book does

1121
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:44,480
for some people my guess is that's why

1122
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:45,680
it's here

1123
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:47,440
anything else it doesn't matter it's no

1124
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:49,040
different than probably the most

1125
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,640
influential book i ever read was

1126
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,160
embraced by the light which was my

1127
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,400
introduction to near-death experiences

1128
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:56,480
way more significant in my life than the

1129
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:58,000
bible

1130
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,440
let's talk about near-death experiences

1131
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:02,880
how you're processing it through your

1132
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:05,599
lens what does nde stand for well again

1133
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:06,720
when you say

1134
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:08,480
you use it as a near-death experience

1135
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,000
that that's

1136
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,680
counter-intuitive because you don't have

1137
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,680
to be near death you can have these my

1138
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:15,760
wife had one when i was traumatically

1139
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:18,160
hurt basically what has to happen is

1140
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,240
something traumatic happens in your life

1141
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,400
where the future and the past no longer

1142
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,200
matter all that's important is the now

1143
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:27,200
in this case i had gotten hit by a car

1144
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:29,839
so my wife-to-be was concerned i might

1145
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,000
be over but she slipped into it

1146
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,319
absolutely she's now in the now and that

1147
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,160
allows your spirit to go places that

1148
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,160
normally wouldn't have so it doesn't

1149
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,640
have to be near death and those trying

1150
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,480
to debunk it are saying well was the

1151
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:44,480
plane really clinically none of that

1152
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,960
stuff matters you know it was dr evan

1153
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:49,119
alexander you had him on your show

1154
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,480
he proved a guy's a freaking

1155
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:52,640
neurosurgeon i mean really we're gonna

1156
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,280
argue with this guy but the point is is

1157
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:57,599
it doesn't need to be a dead brain that

1158
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:59,040
just proves it that there are people

1159
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,119
that are comatose and absolutely they're

1160
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:03,200
watching the scene talking about what

1161
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:05,280
the emts were wearing

1162
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:09,599
okay and that is in irrefutable proof so

1163
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,160
end of discussion it's real let's move

1164
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:14,480
forward let's move above it

1165
00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:15,599
and

1166
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:17,359
so yeah when i was introduced those it

1167
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,880
changed my life i'm going [\h__\h] there's

1168
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,400
proof about this stuff why is nobody

1169
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,680
listening

1170
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:23,440
and so you coined this term i love it

1171
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,480
next

1172
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:26,880
destination experience and i think i

1173
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:28,880
think again what that brings what that

1174
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:31,520
brings forward and this is what you do

1175
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,920
is you say look

1176
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:35,359
if that is

1177
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:38,319
self-evident based on the science logic

1178
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,720
reason which it is and you're also

1179
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,480
hanging it out there if it isn't prove

1180
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,960
it to me but otherwise i provided enough

1181
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:47,119
evidence that the burden of truth is on

1182
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,240
someone outside of the facts to prove it

1183
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,319
otherwise and since no one's going

1184
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,240
forward then you got to go with matt's

1185
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:56,160
truth so then you said you know what

1186
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:57,040
guys

1187
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,880
i appreciate that you've done all this

1188
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:00,480
work and for the last 20 years you've

1189
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:03,599
published over 200 peer-reviewed

1190
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:05,200
articles on it and you have all this

1191
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:06,640
good stuff but you know what you really

1192
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:09,119
mislabeled it why did they mislabel it

1193
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,040
and what should it be labeled

1194
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,359
next destination experience it's all it

1195
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:15,520
isn't the peak on the other side

1196
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:17,680
has nothing to do with death yes when we

1197
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:18,560
die

1198
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,720
obviously we go to the next destination

1199
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,960
but it defeats it because by saying near

1200
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,079
death you're ruling out the

1201
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:26,160
contributions of mediums or or

1202
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:29,359
meditation or whatever else i mean

1203
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,640
yeah anyway so it's just one of those

1204
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,480
i know it's it's

1205
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:37,040
the little pieces of the puzzle are all

1206
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:38,480
we can ever

1207
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,079
hope for in the best day you know but

1208
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,319
i'll tell you this i'm just about to

1209
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:46,640
publish an interview with a guy

1210
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,520
fantastic guy his name is william peters

1211
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,440
and he's one of the world's leading

1212
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:52,720
authorities

1213
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:55,520
shared death experience okay so

1214
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,559
william has this institute multiple phds

1215
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:01,440
medical doctors has done real research

1216
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:04,880
share death experiences right so this is

1217
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:07,520
where you're going with this this is you

1218
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,400
are already anticipating this science

1219
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,640
this very important science because i

1220
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,240
don't know if this matches your wife's

1221
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:16,400
experience but what's happening is

1222
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,440
people are with someone who who are

1223
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:21,839
crossing over are experiencing this

1224
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:24,319
glimpse or who are actually journeying

1225
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:25,680
to the other side

1226
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,240
and they are journeying with them they

1227
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,480
are going part of that way they are

1228
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,720
seeing deceased relatives they are

1229
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,280
seeing the like they're seeing the

1230
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:37,359
so this is

1231
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,200
science again

1232
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:41,040
confirming

1233
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:43,200
what you figured out there in minnesota

1234
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:45,200
just after a couple of

1235
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:46,240
couple of

1236
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,040
millions it's it's like a million people

1237
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,040
walking into the courtroom and saying i

1238
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:53,280
saw oj do it

1239
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:55,040
and then there's still people that won't

1240
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:56,720
believe that evidence

1241
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:58,880
that's not enough that doesn't suffice

1242
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,839
for me

1243
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,160
you know so it's ridiculous and now when

1244
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:04,640
you incorporate the wisdom we've learned

1245
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:08,000
yeah you when you pass to the other side

1246
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:10,160
you could go into darkness you can go in

1247
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,599
the light

1248
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,839
the uh there's a lot of options over

1249
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,040
there

1250
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,160
but uh bottom line is it's it's [\h__\h]

1251
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,240
to see keep talking like the stuff isn't

1252
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,160
real i mean that's called intellectual

1253
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,319
pollution if we don't move above that

1254
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,240
conversation say hey you guys are

1255
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,319
entitled to your old your whole branch

1256
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:30,640
feel free and feel free to populate it

1257
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,559
come back to us with whatever you got

1258
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,240
but the rest of the trunk we're moving

1259
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:35,839
forward

1260
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:39,040
right on so a couple other points and

1261
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:41,440
then we'll we'll wrap this up and people

1262
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:42,559
can

1263
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,119
join this conversation by

1264
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:48,480
checking out matt's book the facts

1265
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:51,440
talk about et this is another topic that

1266
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,920
for a lot of people when i bring it up

1267
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:55,680
people are like oh my god why are you

1268
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:57,599
mixing that in and just talk about

1269
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,760
parapsychology or just talk about psy or

1270
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:01,680
just talk about because you know i'm

1271
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:02,720
like

1272
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:05,839
no i'm with matt here it's just about

1273
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:08,319
whatever truth comes along i'm like oh

1274
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:10,640
okay i didn't know that truth

1275
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,680
oh school me educate me oh that's true

1276
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,520
okay well i guess i'll have to fit that

1277
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:17,280
into my tree

1278
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:20,480
so what do we know about ufos what do we

1279
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,200
know about et matt

1280
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:25,760
well what i've learned through you

1281
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,200
and years and years of research and and

1282
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:31,599
delving into the truth

1283
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:34,079
is that it's as real as the nose on her

1284
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,119
face

1285
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:36,720
okay again i'm gonna go back to nikki

1286
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:38,640
six's analogy

1287
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:41,599
it's like an onion okay we've got

1288
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:44,160
species on earth of which it ends kind

1289
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:45,599
of with the monkey and then there's the

1290
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,800
human being and then just above us in

1291
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:50,400
our atmosphere

1292
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:53,040
finally the pentagon to the best of my

1293
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:55,359
understanding within the last five years

1294
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:57,520
finally came out and said okay okay yep

1295
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,800
there's something flying in the

1296
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:00,720
atmosphere we're not exactly sure what

1297
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:03,040
it is it doesn't conform to our laws of

1298
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:04,160
physics

1299
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:07,280
and so at that point now too i read this

1300
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:08,880
in the new york times the paper of

1301
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,200
record saying the pentagon said this so

1302
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:13,920
at that point we can look back now

1303
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,680
and every single person who

1304
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,760
questioned somebody who was claiming

1305
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:21,119
ufos

1306
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:23,520
and still today somebody who questions

1307
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:26,160
it these people are no

1308
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:29,200
less stupid today than those that

1309
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,160
thought it was a flat earth back then

1310
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,480
the evidence is overwhelming it's been

1311
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,200
proven and if you choose not to believe

1312
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:39,839
it we have no choice but to leave you on

1313
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,880
your little branch and move forward

1314
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:44,720
because it's as real as it knows in your

1315
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:47,440
face and if we're not going to include

1316
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:51,359
that fact into our discourse we're going

1317
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,160
to go around and around and around and

1318
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,920
the world's going to continue to slide

1319
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,680
into the abyss

1320
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,200
right and

1321
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:02,400
with that are a thousand other questions

1322
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:04,640
about that which we can't completely

1323
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:06,720
wrestle to the ground but what you're

1324
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:09,760
pointing out is kind of the logic of it

1325
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,119
the self-evident logic of it which was

1326
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:15,440
if you were resistant

1327
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:16,319
to

1328
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:18,960
all these cases thousands and thousands

1329
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:21,920
of cases from the most trusted people we

1330
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,240
have people who have a tremendous amount

1331
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,079
to lose you know guys been in the air

1332
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,800
force for 30 years and says hey i can't

1333
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:30,720
hold this secret with me

1334
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:33,920
while i die here's what happened to me

1335
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:37,040
and by the way here's five of my buddies

1336
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,400
who weren't even my buddies they just

1337
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:40,559
served with me and we all saw the same

1338
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:42,640
thing and it was at this nuclear air

1339
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:44,079
force base so

1340
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,400
if we if we have all those accounts

1341
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,160
and now we have

1342
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,880
as you said the pentagon who clearly in

1343
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:55,440
their admission of this

1344
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:57,200
is also pointing out that they've been

1345
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:58,480
the biggest

1346
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,839
perpetrators liars perpetrators and and

1347
00:53:06,910 --> 00:53:03,520
worse than

1348
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,920
have

1349
00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:08,640
intentionally

1350
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:10,200
generated

1351
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,160
disinformation

1352
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:14,720
in order to lead people in order to lead

1353
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,640
people astray so we could get into a

1354
00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:18,079
whole discussion about what was the

1355
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,319
agenda behind that and are they evil

1356
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:21,599
control

1357
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,040
well and then there's the whole military

1358
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:27,040
you want me on that wall you need me on

1359
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:29,119
that wall because you really don't so

1360
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,720
that's a whole other that's a whole

1361
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,800
other discussion what i want to bring

1362
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:34,240
people to

1363
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,520
is again here's matt lambo

1364
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:39,119
and we're going to have to talk as as

1365
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:41,440
you wrap up we'll have to say that tell

1366
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:43,839
that story what that's about but

1367
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,559
saying okay he's just connected those

1368
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:48,640
two obvious points is that

1369
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:50,559
okay all of you who have been holding

1370
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:51,599
back

1371
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:55,119
the the the damn with all these accounts

1372
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:57,200
the best most trusted eyewitnesses that

1373
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:00,079
we have people we say that we trust with

1374
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:03,119
a nuclear bomb hundreds of them and we

1375
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,119
you've not been willing to accept their

1376
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:07,920
accounts because you said you're waiting

1377
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,000
for the government to say that your

1378
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:12,400
government as if that's something real

1379
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,000
to say it's true

1380
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,920
okay well now they said it's true so

1381
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:17,760
what's holding you back now that's the

1382
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:20,240
strength of this book that's the power

1383
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:23,920
of this book to say no i reduce things

1384
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:26,800
down to some fundamental principles and

1385
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,680
if i apply these principles consistently

1386
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:31,680
it always seems to

1387
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,319
land me on my feet where i can kind of

1388
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,480
figure stuff out and when somebody

1389
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:39,119
knocks me off my feet it's no problem

1390
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:41,040
because all they've done is say

1391
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:43,760
jump over to the next branch bro and i

1392
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,079
say i'm fine with the next branch

1393
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,079
because it's all connected to the trunk

1394
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:50,319
and it's all connected to the roots

1395
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:53,839
yeah yeah it's all pursuit of truth and

1396
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:56,559
the uh yeah so and it's simple this is

1397
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:58,960
where i get condescending

1398
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,760
or i sound that way and i sound so

1399
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:03,760
matter of fact because what we just

1400
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:06,400
discussed that's that's

1401
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:07,359
uh

1402
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,000
self i mean it's it's common sense in my

1403
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:12,000
world that we account for this

1404
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:14,240
intelligence and so my patience with

1405
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,079
people who refuse again the question is

1406
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:20,319
this not if this stuff is true or not

1407
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:22,720
it's been proven what do we do with the

1408
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:24,880
willful ignorance

1409
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:27,440
these people constantly are making

1410
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:30,079
claims that have been proven untrue

1411
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:32,640
somehow you have to move past it we're

1412
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,359
not moving past it we're moving above it

1413
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,079
you don't have to come with us but those

1414
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:40,079
that are willing to accept these truths

1415
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:42,079
we've elevated our conversation we're

1416
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,520
now up to step

1417
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,520
fact number 30

1418
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:47,200
of which you and i and anybody that

1419
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,160
wants to contribute it has the truth has

1420
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:52,079
to be a foundation somewhere of which

1421
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:53,520
we're picking at

1422
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:55,119
not

1423
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:57,440
i mean right now there's just no

1424
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,319
no hierarchy of common sense

1425
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,480
of which we can discuss from the outside

1426
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:04,400
does that make sense

1427
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,230
beautiful

1428
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:10,480
so i'll tell you as we as we wrap things

1429
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,280
up

1430
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:13,119
mr matt lambeau

1431
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:15,599
is going to is going to tell us that

1432
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:18,400
great little story about how he came up

1433
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:19,839
with the pen name because i think it's

1434
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,400
it's it's quite quite clever

1435
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,720
yeah well it's crucial too

1436
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,799
okay because again when you read the

1437
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,240
facts and again i wanna i wanna make

1438
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:30,799
this crystal clear okay this has nothing

1439
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:33,040
to do with me the only thing you need to

1440
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:36,319
know about me as a human being okay

1441
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:39,599
is that uh i've got more children than i

1442
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:43,359
have a's in both high school and college

1443
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,839
and i've got more dwis than i have

1444
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:47,280
children

1445
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:49,280
yeah but what i want to know is why do

1446
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:51,440
you still love the packers even though

1447
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,799
they break your heart year after year

1448
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:57,040
that is a segway i was hoping for right

1449
00:57:01,589 --> 00:56:59,359
there for those of you don't know the

1450
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:01,599
packers franchise supposedly is owned by

1451
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:03,839
the fans and so that kind of led to my

1452
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:06,400
pen name uh matt lambo because that

1453
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:08,319
premise that curley had that said you

1454
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:09,359
know what

1455
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:10,960
you give the people the opportunity to

1456
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,240
manage these franchises they can

1457
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:14,160
actually do it through a cooperative

1458
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:16,160
they all have the same interests and so

1459
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:17,920
i look at the facts the same way they

1460
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:19,680
have nothing to do with me this is

1461
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:21,520
simply intellectual property that

1462
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,079
belongs to the free world in this

1463
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:26,400
the free world and the holy grail the

1464
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,720
way i see it is we're in an ocean of

1465
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,280
deception the holy grail is your portal

1466
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:33,119
or something like that that says there's

1467
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,200
a protected place where we can go find

1468
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:37,680
truth and if we go find that truth we

1469
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:39,680
can set out into the world knowing that

1470
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:41,440
we're confident because there's somebody

1471
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,880
defending us

1472
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:44,400
you nailed it

1473
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:45,359
but

1474
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:46,880
and and i think there's some things to

1475
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:48,960
add there that i think are interesting

1476
00:57:53,589 --> 00:57:51,280
because the pushback is

1477
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:53,599
yeah matt but that's not really

1478
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:56,960
how it works in terms of how it's kind

1479
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:59,359
of implemented and how it is today but

1480
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:01,440
i'll tell you what to suggest that the

1481
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:02,720
ideals

1482
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:04,240
that the vision

1483
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,599
doesn't matter is to really miss one of

1484
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:09,359
the truths and one of the facts and one

1485
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:10,559
of the points i always like to make to

1486
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:12,319
people when they kind of want to quote

1487
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,400
the constitution or the founding fathers

1488
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,480
is the inalienable rights it's two

1489
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:18,640
things one is now those guys got a lot

1490
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:21,200
of [\h__\h] wrong i mean we had

1491
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:24,079
we had the most incredibly

1492
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:26,720
vicious evil slavery

1493
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:29,359
for hundreds of years and then we fixed

1494
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:31,680
it for like two years and then we let a

1495
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:32,880
bunch of

1496
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:35,200
terrorists just pure terrorists

1497
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,119
instituted again for another 100 years

1498
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,599
we all stood by and said well you know

1499
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:41,760
it's not really affecting me that much

1500
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:44,799
so let's let it go but

1501
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:47,760
let's not totally dismiss the ideal the

1502
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:49,119
light

1503
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:52,319
inalienable rights life liberty pursuit

1504
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,160
of happiness because even the folks who

1505
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,720
were subjected to the terror of that

1506
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:00,160
institution

1507
00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:03,280
they saw the wisdom in that so there is

1508
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:06,079
something to hold on to there but the

1509
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:07,440
other thing that i'd make kind of in my

1510
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,000
iconoclastic way is

1511
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:12,240
we always had the inalienable rights

1512
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:14,480
that quote unquote founding fathers

1513
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:17,040
didn't give us anything

1514
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,880
which is in the same way what your book

1515
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:21,280
is about we always had it

1516
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,839
if the republic falls tomorrow will you

1517
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:25,920
still have

1518
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:27,680
those rights

1519
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:31,359
because they are from the roots they are

1520
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,319
from the source and i think that's the

1521
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,400
lambo thing in terms of what you're

1522
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:38,079
saying is that

1523
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:39,599
collectively

1524
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,359
we can come together

1525
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:43,440
and it isn't going to be perfect

1526
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,599
but we can do a pretty good job and the

1527
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:48,000
packers have done the packers

1528
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:49,200
no matter what you think about the

1529
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:50,160
packers

1530
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:51,760
they've done pretty good

1531
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:54,480
yeah yeah no doubt about it and

1532
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:56,319
i mean that's that's the bottom line is

1533
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:58,000
the inanimate rights come from the

1534
01:00:01,990 --> 00:59:59,760
creator i mean they're they're woven

1535
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,000
into the fabric of all that is they go

1536
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,000
beyond an ineffable creator that's

1537
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:06,079
saying listen this is the light it's

1538
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,720
it's faith freedom i you know i life

1539
01:00:13,109 --> 01:00:10,720
liberating pursuit of happiness but

1540
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,119
they're under attack you cannot deny

1541
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:15,119
that conscious souls that want others to

1542
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,200
conform to their paradigm of reality are

1543
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:19,280
constantly attacking the inalienable

1544
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,640
rights of others

1545
01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:22,799
and so we can either

1546
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:26,079
just life on life's terms let this

1547
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:28,880
destruction of the world and it's

1548
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:30,799
conquered by evil

1549
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:33,440
occur hey life on life's terms this is

1550
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:34,559
the way it's supposed to be there's a

1551
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,079
strong case to be made that we're here

1552
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:37,920
for the difficulty so it explains all

1553
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:40,240
that but on the flip side of that wait a

1554
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:42,720
minute this is these truths are ours

1555
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:44,400
why would we not circle the wagons and

1556
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:46,319
protect the ship

1557
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,280
why just allow the onslaught when we can

1558
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:52,000
starting with one conscious soul you

1559
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:54,160
start like this little tiny flame of

1560
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:55,520
truth where people come and they get

1561
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:57,760
them one at a time and guess what once

1562
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:59,599
they get here they go oh my god i'm

1563
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:01,760
protected here i can walk back out into

1564
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:03,680
the world with complete confidence and

1565
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:06,079
be condescending like matt lambo because

1566
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,480
i'm so confident in what i know is true

1567
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,480
and now we got an army

1568
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:14,400
and that doesn't put the defectors from

1569
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:17,040
the dark side

1570
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:19,680
matt you are you are a joy buddy you are

1571
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,000
unique you are my brother tell folks

1572
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:24,480
about where they're going to find uh the

1573
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:25,440
facts

1574
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:28,799
and tell folks about the website as well

1575
01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:32,240
okay sounds good now again the uh the

1576
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:35,440
facts are free if you want a pdf and

1577
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:37,599
again i don't know all understand the

1578
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:39,440
whole publishing world and this and that

1579
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:40,240
but

1580
01:01:45,549 --> 01:01:42,880
this is information of which belongs to

1581
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:45,559
the free world so you can always go to

1582
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:47,760
selfishtruth.com and get a free pdf now

1583
01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:49,839
if you want a book or digital that stuff

1584
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,880
costs so there's going to be a cost but

1585
01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:54,720
especially humanity's last hope will

1586
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:57,200
always be available for free

1587
01:02:01,349 --> 01:01:59,760
and what i truly see this book is this

1588
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:01,359
is you can't read it without your life

1589
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:04,240
change for the better 100 for the better

1590
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:06,720
because all it is is truth and truth

1591
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:09,280
sets you free it has nothing to do with

1592
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:11,200
it if i was a counselor

1593
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:12,880
there's none of that is in there sure

1594
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:14,160
you can see

1595
01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:17,039
that some human being wrote this stuff

1596
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,359
but what matters is hey do you

1597
01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:21,680
understand the uh the past future and

1598
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:23,359
the now do you understand some of the

1599
01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:24,559
things that were in the road less

1600
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:26,480
traveled do you understand what was in

1601
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:28,799
the untethered soul or the power of now

1602
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:29,520
or

1603
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:30,960
i don't have enough faith to be an

1604
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:33,440
atheist i'm just basically going through

1605
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:36,000
pulling out what i know is fundamentally

1606
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:38,640
important to me and putting it first

1607
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:40,480
so wait until you're 58 let me give you

1608
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:43,280
the cliff notes of this stuff so that's

1609
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:45,920
the way humanities it's available okay

1610
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:49,200
and i truly believe that if you give a

1611
01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:51,520
rat's ass about humanity

1612
01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:53,920
you want to forward this podcast to

1613
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:55,520
someone you love

1614
01:03:00,789 --> 01:02:57,680
this book the facts

1615
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:00,799
is a message of love again it's has

1616
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:03,119
nothing to do with i'm just the guy who

1617
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:05,920
stumbled upon the idea and went chasing

1618
01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:06,799
it

1619
01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:14,000
they're game changing

1620
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:16,960
your elevate your consciousness above

1621
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:19,520
the fray into the frequency of

1622
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,400
understanding and the light so

1623
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,000
yeah i believe the book is a game

1624
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:26,240
changer i believe working with you and

1625
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:28,559
now having access to the holy grail and

1626
01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:31,680
the first century moses that you are

1627
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:33,440
we can change the world with this stuff

1628
01:03:36,069 --> 01:03:34,559
dude

1629
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:36,079
and again we'll change it we'll take a

1630
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:38,240
look at it if it isn't articulated to

1631
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:40,640
perfection let's tweak it in and and

1632
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:42,720
give people access to the truth

1633
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:45,200
that's it in a nutshell

1634
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:47,440
i'm just a messenger

1635
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:49,839
matt it's been awesome having you on and

1636
01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:52,000
uh this isn't the end the conversation

1637
01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:54,559
will continue so thanks again so much

1638
01:03:58,630 --> 01:03:55,599
man

1639
01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:58,640
alex i i you understand because we've

1640
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:00,400
communicated a bit leading up to this

1641
01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:02,880
but i am truly honored my friend

1642
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:05,920
truly truly honored

1643
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:07,680
thanks again to matt for joining me

1644
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:10,480
today on skeptico the one question i'd

1645
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:13,200
have is is there such a thing as a

1646
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:15,599
self-evident truth

1647
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:17,280
are all truths

1648
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:20,240
always in every circumstance

1649
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:22,480
a social construct

1650
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:24,480
be careful with that one

1651
01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:27,760
realize that the current neurological

1652
01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:29,760
scientific model

1653
01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:33,039
we live under materialism the idea that

1654
01:04:37,109 --> 01:04:35,359
you are just your brain

1655
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:37,119
leaves no room

1656
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:39,119
for anything more

1657
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,200
than the social construct

1658
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:43,440
love to hear your thoughts on this and

1659
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:46,079
stick around plenty more to come

1660
01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:47,680
until next time

1661
01:05:04,460 --> 01:04:50,910
take care and bye for now